Darkhawk ([info]lilairen) wrote,
@ 2003-04-08 17:26:00
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Current mood: amused
Current music:Genesis, "No Son of Mine"
Entry tags:baseball, links, religion

My obsessions are breeding.
See also article on the subject of ancient Egyptian "baseball".



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[info]bibliotrope
2003-04-08 09:27 pm UTC (link)
That's fascinating. I wish the article had links to illustrations, especially "King Thutmose III . . . holding a slender stick that looked like a fungo bat"; I'd like to see the king's batting stance.

One of the mailing lists I'm on has people from the UK and Australia as well as the U.S. and Canada, so a "baseball vs. cricket" thread occasionally breaks out. I'm going to share this article with them; the mutual ancestor of those sports may be older than we thought.

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[info]lilairen
2003-04-08 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Yah -- I poked around google trying to see if there were any illustrations anywhere, but no dice. A lot of similar articles in various other places, all of them making the same weak jokes about poor Doubleday, but nothing better on image.

The fellow who gave the speech in question has a book coming out next year, but it's just about Senet. No seker-hemat, yet.

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[info]lilairen
2003-04-09 12:23 am UTC (link)
I may have spoken too soon.

There's a line drawing on this page that looks appropriate, but I don't read the German. And a wee thumbnail on this Taipei Times article with the same image, just of the king, in colour.

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[info]thastygliax
2003-04-09 04:52 am UTC (link)
Neat article! [One of the (less critical?) questions yet to be resolved for my ancient myth game is whether to keep the Sports skill, since most Bronze Age sports seem to be easily covered by running, combat skills, etc.]

The caption of the line drawing is: Thutmosis III. beim Schlagballritual vor Hathor, Deir el-Bahari. That's the right Pharaoh & location, "Schlagballritual" seems to be a "ritual of batting a ball", and it's "for Hathor". (My German-American dictionary says that "Schlag" is a stroke, slap, beat, etc., and a "Schläger" is a kicker, club, racket, etc., or [in cricket] a bat or batsman.) So yeah, I'd say that's a pretty close match.

And clicking the thumbnail on the second pic you found will give you a larger copy of the image, which (unlike the German page) shows parts of the two servants holding balls, which are mentioned in the article.

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